Gold News

Gotta Choose? Long Gold, Thanks

But you've got to pick your gold mining stocks more carefully...
 
RANDALL ABRAMSON, CFA, is CEO and portfolio manager of Trapeze Asset Management Inc., a firm he co-founded in 1999 shortly after founding its affiliate broker dealer, Trapeze Capital Corp.
 
Since named one of Canada's "Stock Market Superstars", Abramson here speaks to The Gold Report about how to tell good from bad in the awful-looking mining equities world today...
 
The Gold Report: A 10-year US bond yields 2% currently. How is that changing the market?
 
Randall Abramson: We typically view the markets and our investment process through top-down and bottom-up lenses. Our top-down tools are telling us that all systems are "go", and that there are no immediate hurdles ahead. This low-growth environment has allowed the broader markets to remain in a bull phase for longer than is typical. In fact, we've not had even a market correction of 10% or so for way longer than normal.
 
TGR: The World Gold Council reports that central banks bought 477.2 tonnes of gold in 2014, which was nearly a 50-year high. What do you make of central banks buying gold at peak Cold War-era levels?
 
Randall Abramson: Gold does not have a built-in return. When interest rates are higher, everybody is less apt to hold gold because there's too much of an opportunity cost. When interest rates are negative, as they are in some countries today, you'd probably rather own gold than lose money on bonds.
 
Central banks are perhaps trying to spur inflation by buying gold, or they could be less interested at these elevated US Dollar prices to hold Dollars in their reserves, or they could be concerned about the US's balance sheet. All of those are factors. But the key driver is that there are places like China, which is flush with cash and willing to hold more gold. China always takes a long-term approach to the way it manages things. It may even be making a run at the US Dollar for reserve currency status and holding more gold in its coffers will help.
 
TGR: The WGC report also said gold demand jumped 6% in Q4/14 to 987.5 tonnes but was down 4% year-over-year. Does that bolster your spirits as a gold investor?
 
Randall Abramson: The 2014 growth rates were a bit deceiving because the 2013 numbers were out of sight, driven by huge investment demand in both India and China. And at the same time, India put curbs in place to limit gold buying, which probably slowed down demand growth for gold last year. In the overall picture gold demand has been growing nicely over time, while the supply has more or less flatlined. Now that the price of gold is around $1200 per ounce, and close to the all-in sustaining cost of production, our take is that about half of the global gold producers would not make a profit below $1150 per ounce. That should support the price at that level. And given that the marginal cost of production for gold is around $1400 per ounce, we believe that we will see $1300-1400 per ounce gold in the not-so-distant future.
 
TGR: Pick one: long gold or short gold?
 
Randall Abramson: Long. The world's central banks are, in aggregate, accommodative, some of them highly accommodative, in terms of quantitative easing. We think that they will ultimately win the day, and this disinflationary period that we've lived through for years will transition into a reflationary period. The key indicator of that so far is that the gold price, while it's near a recent low in US Dollars, looks terrific on the charts in just about every other currency.
 
TGR: Trapeze positions itself as value investors, stock pickers. Are we in a stock picker's market for gold equities?
 
Randall Abramson: That's a great question. You can go through periods where the overall sector is a better bet than finding a specific stock, especially from a risk-reward perspective. For instance, when the market bottomed in 2009, using a net to capture a bunch of stocks might have been better than a mere handful of particular stocks because the whole market was trading near $0.50 on the Dollar. You didn't want to miss out on the market reverting to fair value.
 
The gold equities market is in a similar phase. You would have been better off as a stock picker over the last couple of years to avoid highly levered or high-cost producers. Those companies witnessed unprecedented declines in their stock prices. But now that we're sitting with gold stocks versus bullion at the lowest level in 75 years and the price:book value (P:BV) of the overall senior golds in the sector trading at about one times P:BV, it seems to be a period where casting a wide net may make more sense. And that's an interesting comment coming from a bottom-up value investor like me.
 
TGR: Everyone obviously has their own methods of picking everything from fresh fruit to baked goods. Tell us about your process for picking equities, especially precious metals equities, in this market.
 
Randall Abramson: You pick baked goods based on what you like to eat. Some people like éclairs. Some people like cookies. But we pick our fruit differently. Most of us like strawberries but not all strawberries are the same. If a strawberry looks terrific other than a tiny blemish, that's no problem. You can cut out the blemish and enjoy the rest. But if that piece of fruit turns out to be rotten, the entire strawberry is for the birds. That's similar to how one should look at stocks on a bottom-up basis. Is the stock price below fair market value because there's a little blemish and the market is over-reacting? Or is it a sign that the stock is rotten to the core? That's what we do as value investors.
 
TGR: Most of our readers follow small-cap precious metals equities. Please give us an overview of that sector.
 
Randall Abramson: It's been beaten up as badly as the large-cap sector. The large caps are trading at about book value, and the small caps are valued similarly. About 2,000 companies are listed on the TSX Venture Exchange and about two-thirds of those are resource equities, mostly gold and oil and gas stocks. The Venture started in 2001 and the index is now below the level at which it started. It's essentially at the same level it was at the market bottom at the end of 2008. There is a treasure trove of potential investments there.
 
The problem is that a lot of companies need capital and the gold business is complex – there are geological issues, engineering issues, commodity price fluctuations and other moving parts. When the sector is out of favor, it's very difficult for some companies to attract capital. It's the ultimate value trap. Having said that, there are companies out there without debt, with cash on their balance sheets and that ultimately can control their own destiny.
 
TGR: What's your best guess as to when the bear market for gold bullion will end?
 
Randall Abramson: Gold in every other major currency except the US Dollar is clearly out of a bear market because it's up significantly. Gold in US Dollar terms, while it's barely off of its bottom, has already triggered a buy signal in our proprietary Ratio of Adjusted Capital work. Since 1990 we've seen that buy signal happen 14 times with an average gain of about 25% from its trough. Only once did it decline.
 
TGR: Could that just be a bear market rally?
 
Randall Abramson: It's possible, but it's unlikely because you have to liken gold to any other commodity, like pork bellies, and look at the commodity fundamentals. While the gold supply is flatlining and demand is growing, at current levels gold is far below the marginal cost of production. Gold is sitting at the average cost of production, but commodities typically sit, on average, at 40% above the average all-in cost of production. The gold price has to normalize to the upside. What's inhibiting gold isn't necessarily disinflation, it's the US Dollar and that could continue given that interest rate differentials still favor the US over other regions. If you're a pension investor, you've been earning 2% on your US Treasuries versus next to nothing, or even negative yields, on your European bonds, and worse, the Euro has plummeted versus the Dollar. But that could all turn on a dime.
 
TGR: Any parting thoughts?
 
Randall Abramson: It's interesting that I just conducted interviews with The Gold Report and The Energy Report because as you look around the world, it's very difficult, more than any other time that I've seen, to find value. When you're in a bear market, value abounds, and when you're in a bull market, you can still typically find pockets of value. Yet it's difficult to find undervalued stocks today. But the two groups that keep coming up on our screens, from all over the world, on a bottom-up basis, are energy and gold stocks. Now, if we could just get commodity prices to cooperate.
 
TGR: Thank you for your insights, Randall.

The Gold Report is a unique, free site featuring summaries of articles from major publications, specific recommendations from top worldwide analysts and portfolio managers covering gold stocks, and a directory, with samples, of precious metals newsletters. 

See the full archive of Gold Report articles.

Please Note: All articles published here are to inform your thinking, not lead it. Only you can decide the best place for your money, and any decision you make will put your money at risk. Information or data included here may have already been overtaken by events – and must be verified elsewhere – should you choose to act on it. Please review our Terms & Conditions for accessing Gold News.

Follow Us

Facebook Youtube Twitter LinkedIn

 

 

Market Fundamentals